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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm Hearkening to what you are saying Knight but I can't really discuss it now... I have to go and covet my neighbour's wife and maidservant.  |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. I'm going to adjust the settings on my forum to replace every instance of listen with hearken.
That will be cool and interesting.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Actually K² the very carol you mention, Hark the Herald Angels Sing was written in the 18th century by Charles Wesley who founded the Methodist Church. If in fact the Christians were He!! bent on annihilating the word hearken shouldn't that song have been entitlted something like... Listen to the Angels Sing.
Just a thought...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Master Of Puppets wrote: | | Actually K² the very carol you mention, Hark the Herald Angels Sing was written in the 18th century by Charles Wesley who founded the Methodist Church. If in fact the Christians were He!! bent on annihilating the word hearken shouldn't that song have been entitlted something like... Listen to the Angels Sing. |
Well I think all that means is I have my centuries confused and it is more like 19th century that Hearken became fazed out.
That and what government does and what individual followers do are two entirely different things. Also it was being used there in poetical context, which still today is excused for that poetical value.
Of course it was fazed out for that reason - why else do we use a different word now and what could possibly have been wrong with Hearken?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: |
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After thinking further into this I actually challenge the fact that you say this word has been phased out. I have myself used the term 'hearken back' and can assure you that I don't date back to the 19th century. The word hearken holds more meaning than just listen i.e. heed, mind, attend.
Example...
I hearken back to the days when the English language was that of a fine wine...robust and full of flavor.
You don't really hear words like shalt or betwixt used much anymore either but I doubt the dirty rotten Christians had anything to do with their demise. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| Master Of Puppets wrote: | | You don't really hear words like shalt or betwixt used much anymore either but I doubt the dirty rotten Christians had anything to do with their demise. |
In those age old days Britain was ruled by a very English-Christian iron-fist. For example there was a time when in Ireland Catholics weren't allowed to:
Vote
Serve in Parliament
Live within incorporated towns
Practice law
Hold a position in the military
Hold a position in civil service
Teach
Attend university
Obtain education abroad
Manufacture or sell arms, books, or newspapers
Possess arms
Own a horse worth more than five pounds
Buy, inherit, or receive as a gift land from Protestants
Rent land worth more than thirty shillings a year
Lease land for more than thirty-one years
Make profit from land more than 33% of rent paid
The times and people we speak of are ancient ones, I do not generally consider Christians to be "dirty rotten".
And yes, the word is sometimes used, but I don't think we will hear it in the daily newsreel anytime soon.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I do not generally consider Christians to be "dirty rotten". |
I would like to think that no one would be considered 'dirty' or 'rotten' based solely on their religious beliefs. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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If I may, you will often read how followers of any religion often evolve to become more spiritually rational over time, in turn becoming more and more diverged from the original philosophy.
For example, we don't burn our daughters, offer animal sacrifices or believe in talking snakes anymore.
In this instance I will reiterate how the times we speak of are ancient ones, whereby the people of that time had not evolved to harbour a more rational philosophy.
I guess you don't know me as well as other members here who are aware that I have published Christian-themed poetry - I guess I should have expected someone less knowledgeable of myself to think I am bashing Christianity.
However this is not the case, hopefully now you will realise my post was more a study of religious and cultural linguistic history than anything else.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | For example, we don't burn our daughters, offer animal sacrifices or believe in talking snakes anymore. |
Maybe not burn our daughters but in many cultures females are still seen as second class citizens (Chinese, Islamic). Many African cultures still perform animal sacrifices and we still have bullfighting in Spain. Show me any politician of any nation and I will show you a talking serpent.
These things may not be prevalent in today's society, but do not kid yourself they still exist whether it be figuratively or literally.
| Quote: | | I guess you don't know me as well as other members here who are aware that I have published Christian-themed poetry - I guess I should have expected someone less knowledgeable of myself to think I am bashing Christianity. |
I have been here long enough to get a pretty good feel for most long standing members here. I have checked out your website and think I have a pretty good understanding of your beliefs. Myself, I was raised Catholic but was never confirmed as such. I do not practice Catholicism but rather free myself to make my own choices on how to live my life.
That being said, I was simply responding to the post put forth by you on the word hearken. I assumed you posted this topic to bring about some debate. When you do that you just never know where it might lead. I think we have had a great discussion and harbor no ill feelings whatsoever with anything that has been said. I hope those feelings are mutual.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Master Of Puppets wrote: | Show me any politician of any nation and I will show you a talking serpent.
These things may not be prevalent in today's society, but do not kid yourself they still exist whether it be figuratively or literally. |
Oh totally, I was just referring mainly to old Abrahamic religions, like Christianity, since a little is somewhat bread in all of us in some amount. But let's not go there... lol.
I received my National Geographic this month and in the back there was an article about an African community and an A4 spread photograph of a guy carrying a bull's head on his shoulder that he had just cut off. It's eyes were still open and - well you get the picture.
| Master Of Puppets wrote: | | I think we have had a great discussion and harbor no ill feelings whatsoever with anything that has been said. I hope those feelings are mutual. |
Lol - I'm a sucker for posting controversial stuff - no of course there isn't.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. Maybe they dropped it because of growing paranoia amongst people called Ken.
Just a thought.
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| KnightSquared wrote: | Hmm. Maybe they dropped it because of growing paranoia amongst people called Ken.
Just a thought. |
LMAO! 
That's my Dads name!
He doesn't seem too paranoid about it - but I get what your saying lol
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Actually this might amuse you. Basically, I study words all the time, poets will do because they want to maximise the descriptive impact of their work.
In turn finding anagrams and so forth becomes a second nature subconscious activity.
Anyway as it happens I have actually discovered that many of the words in the English language have Christian-themed anagrams, like "LISTEN" discussed in this thread.
For example, A PSYCHIATRIC NURSE produces Y (why), A CHRISTIAN CURSE. The p is dropped because it's silent anyway.
Lol. The schizos will love that one! Haha.
Also CHRISTIANITY itself has a few anagrams, one most significant being CHASTITY INRI. Which is kind of touching I guess. There is another but I won't be very popular if I reveal it! Lol.
But my all time favourite is the anagram of JESUS CHRIST and a Cross (T). As you know I am a passionate believer in freedom of philosophy and believe the way to truth is through rich diversity amongst religion. Well it is very fitting I think that the anagram found in the above results as SEJ IS TRUTHS C. SEJ ~ Simon Edward Jepps; Truths ~ plural of philosophy; C ~ To understand, 'see' the logic.
Ya see, Haha, a message from the man himself that I must have something worth saying.
Great fun - get out a dictionary and see what you can find in your own language.
Might be a revelation.
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