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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: The next "Great One" Reply with quote

Aaron Rodgers. This guy is a special talent and is looking to be the next Steve Young taking a legends place to become a legend himself. Peyton is still the best in my view but Rodgers is a more complete QB because he can run with the ball and Peyton can't.

He has a quick release, great arm strength, great accuracy, he can scramble to avoid getting tackled. He seems to do it all.

If you aren't impressed by these highlights of Rodgers then check your pulse because you might be dead.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogers is pretty good....but i think your going a little overboard with the "legend" talk....its gonna take a long time before he could even be thought of as a great quarterback, let alone a legend
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rogers is pretty good....but i think your going a little overboard with the "legend" talk....its gonna take a long time before he could even be thought of as a great quarterback, let alone a legend



I didn't call him a legend, the NFL commentators did and I meant that he is earning that right to be called a legend, as in....he is right now paving the road to legend status. 2 years is too early but i'm saying he has the skills to be a legend. I just wanted to point out that he has been called a legend cause I was surprised by that statement so early in his career but I don't think it's that far fetched considering he most likely will become a legend in the future.

He's not pretty good, he's just plain great! He has accuracy, arm strength, elusiveness, he can pass accurately while running. He has only been playing 2 years and will probally get even better.

You say it takes a long time before he can be called a great quarterback. That don't make sense. He leads his team to the playoffs, he doesn't throw very many interceptions, he has "great" skills. Why is it wrong to call him a great quarterback now? He's great at his job so I call him a GREAT QB. Sorry but I just don't understand what your saying.

Anyways....this thread wasn't about calling him a legend, it's about naming him the next great quarterback in the NFL. The next "great one".


EDIT: One more thing, I want to clear up the whole reason why I even posted this topic. I am predicting him to be the next great quarterback in the NFL. It is my opinion and I am saying this because of what he has done and the numbers he has put up in only his first 2 seasons. Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions in his first season and now look at him. I'm just saying for the stuff Rodgers has already done, he is showing signs of being a legendary quarterback in the future when he gets better and has more experience.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurt Warner was also looking really good after 3 years, but then he was injured and replaced by Marc Bulger. After getting replaced he switched teams and never looked as good as before. However, his last 2 years in Arizona, he finally looked good again.

I can't consider Rodgers a great quarterback because he has such an outstanding line and a phenomenal receiving core. Most his passes are short, but the receivers break tackles and gain a ton of extra yards. Receivers don't get much better than Donald Driver and Greg Jennings.

And yes, announcers have been hyping him up ever since the day he replaced Favre. In the game where they versed the Jets who had Favre at the time, I believe the announcers said how everything he did was "Favre like." In fact, it was annoying how much they talked about him during his first year.

This year, there are a lot of good quarterbacks in the league. The fact that you think he is super great most likely means you're a "cheese-head." Does Green Bay have a good team? Yes. Do they have a great quarterback? Rolling Eyes Maybe...If he continues to play this good for another 4 years, then Yes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greenfox....

It's funny how you say that Rodgers has an outstanding offensive line but yet he was sacked 34 times in 2008 and sacked 50 times last year which was a league high. I know Rodgers sometimes holds onto the ball too long (which im sure he will learn from) but you claim the line is outstanding but yet they had 50 sacks last year.

You say Rodgers will be a great quarterback if he keeps it up 4 years later. What if the Packers win the Super Bowl 2 or 3 times in a row and Rodgers is a big reason why? You still won't think he is a great QB yet because he hasn't been in the NFL long enough? Why does he have to play 5 or 6 seasons to earn the right to be called a great QB? He was a great 1st and 2nd year starting QB and that's what i'm trying to point out that he very well might be the next great quarterback!

Peyton Manning always has great players to throw the ball to so that means he's not great either? You pretty much need a great quarterback to have great wide reciever success at least most of the time. Pretty much all of the great quarterbacks have some great recievers too.

I'm really getting sick of people misunderstanding me. Do I really have to explain this again? I am not saying he is the best or 2nd best quarterback in the NFL right now and I am not saying he is SUPER AMAZING!!! or a LEGEND!!! It's a FACT that he was a great player in his first 2 seasons. Most players take a few years before they start to become great.

I AM NOT ALL ABOUT STATS but I want to point out his stats for his first season. For a "rookie starter" they are damn good! I know someone will call me out saying stats aren't everything and I freakin' know that. MOST quarterbacks have a rough first 2 or 3 seasons and make a lot of mistakes and when you compare Rodgers to those players, he IS a great quarterback.

This is my freakin' OPINION on who I think is the next great one at the quarterback position and yet people seem so bothered by an opinion calling me out and saying that I must be a cheesehead......I have never been a Packers fan. My favorite team is the Colts!!!

If Rodgers isn't the next great quarterback then who is? Tell me your pick.

I guess some people just can't see why he is great at this stage in his career and I don't understand why. There are NFL experts and commentators and players who agree with me so I guess all of them are wrong too and don't know what they're talking about and that highlights video I posted is just an illusion right? None of those plays really happened.

He will be the next great QB and that's not a fact, it's my bold PREDICTION....there's a difference.

Let's get some more criticism in here. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I guess I was just comparing his line to my teams line, the Lions. And his line is a lot better than our line. Plus as for the video, half the highlights are against the Lions. Lions always seem to have a bad secondary and our organization never seems to upgrade corners or free safeties. To be honest, videos don't really show how great a quarterback is. I could make a video showing Kyle Orton looking good despite the fact that you and I both know he is a sorry excuse for a quarterback.

I didn't know Rodgers was sacked so much in the past couple years. I see someone has gone to an NFL site to look up stats lol. To be honest I also believe Manning is the best QB in the NFL. I feel he could go to any team and make them a better team.

I am a harsh critique when it comes to judging a quarterback. In all honesty, it took me a long time to think Brady was actually a good quarterback. I begin to hate players when I turn on Sportscenter and all I hear is how great someone is. So it took me a long time to admit to myself Brady was good....also his cockiness is annoying Confused

I know Rodgers was Favre's back-up for a few years. So he wasn't really a rookie when he took over for Favre. His organization did the right thing and got him used to the offense and helped him gain confidence before making him a starter. I think he has already been in the league for about 5 or 6 years.

Also I don't consider being a cheese-head an insult, if you took it as an insult, my bad. My old neighbors were cheese-heads and didn't mind being called that because they really had cheese hats.

I was actually considering Cutler to be the next great quarterback. However, the Broncos organization for whatever reason (I think they got a new coach) took a disliking to him and went after Matt Cassel. He was then traded to the Bears who have no offense whatsoever. He was my pick, but now he is on a bad team Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You diss me for going to a site to look up stats. Well sorry if im not a human stat and record remembering machine. Nobody can keep track of everyone's stats in the NFL.

I don't really have a problem with you being a harsh critic, everyone criticizes in different ways. As for Brady being cocky, well it's better to see a player who truly cares about winning, has passion for the game and is confident than someone who throws an interception or fumbles the ball and thinks, oh well I guess I'll try better next week. I would rather have someone like Brady on my team then someone who doesn't seem to care much. Oh well being a Colts fan, I really don't like the Patriots anyway so go ahead and call him whatever you want. Wink

I am aware that Rodgers has been in the NFL longer than 3 years and I never said he wasn't. I'm saying he has only been the STARTING QB for 2 years going on 3 now. Also it's not like any QB can be great after watching a great QB for a number of years.....look at the Cardinals QB. He was great in college, not so good in the NFL now.

I wasn't really insulted by the cheese-head remark, I just didn't like how you assumed I was a Packers fanatic because I am praising Aaron Rodgers.

As for you saying how you don't think video footage can show how great a player is, how can you say that? How else can you know how good a player is when you don't watch him play? You go by stats? That's a 8 minute highlight video of him after just 2 full seasons.

I don't know why some people just refuse to give Rodgers the credit he deserves. For a WHITE quarterback, he sure can scramble and run with the ball and has accurate passing and there's no denying that. He reminds me of a Steve Young and i'm not saying he IS exactly like Steve Young. The commentators didn't really call Rodgers a legend they were just pointing out that Steve Young replaced a legend (Montana) and became a legend himself and now they think Rodgers will do the same with the Packers. I guess they are predicting him to be a legend in the future just like what i'm doing.

As for you saying half of the highlights video is Rodgers facing the Lions, I don't know what your seeing but much less than half of the video shows the Lions.

As for Jay Cutler, I never considered him to be the next bigtime quarterback. He just isn't consistant enough but it will be fun to watch him face off against Rodgers next monday.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got kinda bored reading those long posts but i think what i and greenfox were saying about him needing to keep it up for a few more years before calling him great is 500% accurate....like he was saying about warner...he was great for a few seasons, but he is not a great quarterback.....same thing with vick or culpepper....to be a great quarterback, you have to be great for years...

im not saying he isnt playing great, or will be one of the best....thats all possible....lets just wait and see if he can keep it up
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bedem15 wrote:
i got kinda bored reading those long posts but i think what i and greenfox were saying about him needing to keep it up for a few more years before calling him great is 500% accurate....like he was saying about warner...he was great for a few seasons, but he is not a great quarterback.....same thing with vick or culpepper....to be a great quarterback, you have to be great for years...

im not saying he isnt playing great, or will be one of the best....thats all possible....lets just wait and see if he can keep it up


I couldn't run out of things to say. Laughing

That's all i'm saying....he is playing great and because of his first 2 solid years and from what i've seen from him so far, I am guessing and predicting he will be the next great quarterback in the future....not right now!

He is great right now, it's not like I was saying he is AMAZING! Maybe you and I have a different definition of what the word "great" means. Anyways, I totally agree that he needs to play great at least a couple more years to have that great status because we don't yet know if he might for some reason start to get worse. This whole thing is just a prediction from me but people seem to think I am calling him the almighty king of quarterbacks right now.

I'll leave it at this and move on....

Rodgers has great potential to be one of the all-time best in the future.

Now on to other NFL talk.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's impressive enough that he can throw a perfect pass while running and being chased by defenders twice his size. If he can still do that in 8 years, he's a legend in my book.

I don't know much about football, so my standards may be a bit low. Hard for me to tell at this point.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to see more before i call him a "great one" Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

homeless thinker who do you think the next great one is
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homelessthinker48 wrote:
I need to see more before i call him a "great one" Rolling Eyes



Homelessthinker48....

This is really getting old. I assume by your rolling eyes face that you think I am calling him the "great one" right now. I cannot make it anymore clear as to what i'm saying. I guess you didn't read my posts. I clearly made it clear that I predict him to be the next great QB in the future.

If you didn't mean it that way then I apologize but from the look of your post it looks like your just ignoring my last 3 posts about Rodgers.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





Score 1 for me. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HE IS the next great one!!!!!!!!!!

I love it when I am right!!!!!!



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